
Whats the Schemata? A Schema Therapy Podcast
A podcast dedicated to Schema Therapy, covering theory, skills, research, and more. Hosted by Schema Therapy Training Australia, it provides insights for therapists and those interested in the therapeutic approach.
Episodes
Episode 68: Schema Therapy Conference- Refections and Takeaways (While Waiting for our Flight)
Episode 68- Schema Therapy Conference
Hayes & Brockman
We have a new Facebook page!- https://www.facebook.com/groups/whatstheschemata
Episode 67: Schema Therapy VS DBT New Research Battle - Who Won?
Episode 67: Schema Therapy Vs DBT New Research Battle - Who Won?
Hayes & Brockman
This podcast centres around the recent Dialectical Behavior Therapy vs Schema Therapy for Patients With Borderline Personality Disorder: The BOOT
Episode 66: Please Don’t Go (But If You Do, Text Me) The Abandonment Schema
In this episode we explore the abandonment schema, what it is, how to help and how it plays out in treatment
Episode 66: Abandonment
Episode 65: The Schema Therapy Solution Podcast With Wendy Behary and Rob Brockman
Episode 65: The Schema Therapy Solution, With Wendy Behary and Rob Brockman
Behary/ Brockman
Episode 64: 7+ things you can do to improve your Schema Therapy Practice Now!
Episode 64: Key things you can do to improve your Schema Therapy Practice Now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWmwTPaxerE&list=PLzZfxr90SZjEmasv9dqppfvwQChddTPFT&index=1
Episode 63: Schema Therapy for Life: Schema Therapy in the "Real world"
In this episode, we’re joined by Dr Georgie Capone and Dr Rob Szymanek from the UK to discuss the “Schema Therapy for Life!” project. Georgie and Rob share their experiences of applying the schema therapy model to the teaching of music and to boxing training.Schema Therapy for life Project Schema Therapy Solution
Episode 62: Remco Van Der Wijngaart (Netherlands): New Year Episode! How to Get Good at What We Do
Episode 62: Remco Van Der Wijngaart: How to Get Good at What We Do, 2026 New Year Episode!
Hayes & Brockman
In this episode, we chat with trainer, writer and Advanced Schema Therapist Remco van der Wijngaart (Netherlands) ab
Episode 61: What's the Schemata With Teens, Schema Therapy with Adolescents with Graham Kell
Episode 61: What’s the Schemata with Teens, Schema Therapy with Adolescents with Graham Kell
Hayes & Brockman
Some more information about our guest Graham Kell- www.flourishpsychology.com.au/graham-kell
Episode 60: Moving Some Furniture - Troubleshooting Chair work in Schema Therapy
In this episode, Chris looks at chairwork in Schema Therapy. Specifically, he looks at ways to overcome problems and improve skills in applying the technique. Interested in some more reading? Check out these great resourcesKellogg, S. (2014). Transformational chairwork: Using psychotherapeutic dialogues in clinical practice. Bloomsbury Publishing PLCvan der Wijngaart (2023) Chairwork: Theory and
Emergency What's the Schemata Pod - New Resources Inside the Room/ Schema Therapy Mastery Plus
Emergency What's the Schemata Pod - New Resources - Inside the Room/ Schema Therapy Mastery Plus
Hayes and Brockman
Episode 59: Imagery Focus: Tricky Schemas and Unusual Situations In Imagery Rescripting
Episode 59: Imagery Focus: Tricky Schemas and Unusual Situations In Imagery Rescripting
Episode 58: Schema Beatle Modes, The Healthy Adult and Working Dangerous Individuals Prof. David Bernstein
Professor David Bernstein
Hayes & Brockman
Episode 57: Eating Disorders Update: Working with Comorbidity, Trauma, and the Body in Eating Disorders Treatment with Susan Simpson
Episode 57: Eating Disorders Update: Working with Comorbidity, Trauma, and the Body
Hayes & Brockman
Episode 56: New Developments and Proposed Tweaks to the Schema Therapy Model with Professor Arnoud Arntz
In this episode we speak with Professor Arnoud Arntz, a founding developer and researcher of the Schema Therapy Model. We discuss new developments and proposed changes to the schema model- a must watch! Willing to help with Professor Arntz research into the new SMI- visit https://www.schema-therapy-instruments.socsci.uva.nl/
Episode 55: Schema Therapy in Chinese and other Collectivist Cultures: Implications for Clinical Practice & Training in the Model Beatrice Ng-Kessler & Rob Brockman
Episode 55: Schema Therapy in Chinese and other Collectivist Cultures
Hayes and Brockman
Episode 57: Eating Disorders Update: Working with Comorbidity, Trauma, and the Body in Eating Disorders Treatment with Susan Simpson
Eating Disorders Update: With Dr Susan Simpson
Hayes & Brockman
Episode 54: The YSQ- R Questionniare Update with Dr Oz Yalcin
Episode 54: The YSQ- R Questionnaire - Update with Dr Oz Yalcin
Hayes & Brockman
Episode 53: Name That Mode!: The Importance of Naming Modes in Collaboration with Clients, to Increase engagement and Awareness
Episode 54: Name that Mode
Hayes & Brockman
Episode 52: Schema Therapy Q & A with Wendy Behary and Rob Brockman
Wendy and Rob Q & A
Hayes & Brockman
Episode 51: The Keys to Developing Skills and Competency In Schema Therapy: A Roundtable Discussion with Tara Cutland Green
The Keys to Developing Skills and Competency In Schema Therapy: A Roundtable Discussion with Tara Cutland Green
Episode 51: The Keys to Developing Skills and Competency In Schema Therapy
Episode 50: Eating Your Schema Broccoli and Opening up the "Can of Worms"; Metaphors and Axioms in Schema Therapy Practice
Episode 50: Eating Your Schema Broccoli: Metaphors and Axioms in Schema Therapy Practice
Hayes & Brockman
In this episode, Rob the “Mode Mystic” and Chris discuss metaphors and how these can be used and implemented in Schema
Episode 49: New Developments In Schema Therapy: Research & Practice - Connect Conference 2024
This episode is from our 2024 Connect Conference in Sydney (November 2024) with Rob Brockman presenting on New Developments in Research and Practice
Episode 49: New Developments in Schema Therapy:
Special Announcement Podcast - Message from Chris & Rob - ISST Board Election Open - International Society for Schema Therapy
Special Announcement Podcast: International Society of Schema Therapy Board Elections
Hayes & Brockman
Episode 48 Keeping it Real! Authenticity in Schema Therapy and the Use of AI with Dr Michiel van Vreeswijk
Episode 48: Keeping it Real! Authenticity in Schema Therapy and the Use of AI
Hayes & Brockman
In today's episode, we meet with Michiel van Vreeswijk who is a Clinical Psychologist, Advanced Schema Therapist and researcher bas
Episode 47: New ways to work with old voices: schema therapy, imagery rescripting and dissociation in Voice hearers
This episode we speak with Georgie Paulik White, an associate professor clinical psychology based in Perth who specialises in the treatment of voice hearing.
New ways to work with old voices: schema
Episode 46: Schema Therapy Radio Show: With Wendy Behary, Rob Brockman and Chris Hayes
in this episode Wendy Behary, Rob Brockman and Chris Hayes provide a schema therapy Q&A session (this is part of our online training The Schema Therapy Solution: www.schematherapysolution.com)
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Episode 45: Fresh Learnings For 2024
In this episode, we reflect on our fresh learnings of 2024. Looking at novel mode dialogue angles, voice hearing and Schema Therapy, tweaks to empathic confrontation, and somatic resourcing options in schema therapy
Episode 44: Neuro Diversity Affirming Approaches in Schema Therapy Practice
In this episode we are joined with Alyssa Garret, Clinical Psychologist from Perth, Australia. We discuss how schema therapists can be more neurodiversity affirming in their practice.https://www.ndhaven.com.auStand Attuned NeuroDiversity Affirming Model - https://learn.standattuned.au
Episode 43: That’s Intense! An Innovative Schema Therapy Approach with Dr Julia Andre
In this episode we speak with Dr Julia Andre, a Clinical Psychologist based in Bali Indonesia. We discussed intensive intensive approaches in using Schema Therapy in treating childhood trauma.
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Episode 42: Pseudo Vulnerability in Schema Therapy. When is Vulnerability Not Really the Real Deal?
Episode 42: Pseudo Vulnerability in Schema Therapy. When is Vulnerability Not Really the Real Deal?
Hayes & Brockman
In this episode we discuss with Dr Susan Simpson the concept of pseudo vulnerability. Ever had clients present
Episode 41 - Punchy Pod - How do we Promote Connection Among the Chronically Disconnected?
In this shorter “punchy” podcast Rob and Chris look at ways therapists can proactively look to improve client connection with others
Episode 41 - Punchy Pod - How do we Promote Connection Among the
Episode 40: What's With the New Modes- Part 1: 10 New Overcompensation Mode Variants for Your Practice!
Episode 40: What's With the New Modes- Part 1: 10 New Overcompensation Mode Variants
Hayes/ Brockman
Edwards (2022) Using Schema Modes for Case Conceptualization in Schema Therapy: An Applied Clinical Approachhttps://www.front
Episode 39: Are you good at Experiental Work? 4 Tips to Improve Your Practice!
Episode 39: Are you Good at Experiental Work? 4 Tips to Improve Your Practice
Hayes/ Brockman
In this episode, Rob and Chris look at experiential techniques and discuss ways to get more confident in working with Imagery and Ch
Episode 38: Dr Happy and the Happy Child Mode
In this episode we speak with Dr Andrew Phipps about his specific interest - the happy child mode! What is it? why do we need it? How we as therapist can help clients and ourselves enter the “Play State”
EMDR and Schema Therapy; a Power Couple? Schema, Trauma and PTSD with Dr Sarah Dominguez
In today’s episode Rob speaks with Dr Sarah Dominguez (accredited EMDR consultant) in how EMDR can be integrated with Schema Therapy approaches - are they the “Power Couple?”Sarah’s Website - www.thewattlecentre.com/about-wattle-centre
Episode 36: Time Pressure! Schema Therapy in a Time Limited Context: Efficiency In Treatment and "Getting There" with Clients
TIME PRESSURE: Schema Therapy In a Time Limited Context
Hayes & Brockman
In this episode, we look at time pressures and how we can use the ST model when we have a limit in our timeframe when working with clients.Resources - 7 Mi
Episode 35: Sexual Healing: A Schema Therapy Approach to Sexual Difficulties, Sexuality and Gender Idenity.
Sexual Healing: A Schema Therapy Approach to Sexual Difficulties, Sexuality and Gender Idenity.
Hayes & Brockman
In this Episode we discuss Schema Therapy Approach to Sexual Difficulties, Sexuality and Gender Identity with Dr O
Episode 34: Schema Therapy and Autism Spectrum Disorder and Neurodiversity with Dr Richard Vuijk :
Episode 34: Schema Therapy and Autistic Spectrum DIsorder and Neurodiversity with Dr Richard Vuijk :
Hayes & Brockman
We discuss key learnings from a research trial with clients with both ASD and Personality Disorder with princ
Episode 33: Enlight Melbourne 2023- Highlights & - Key Takeaways
Episode 33: Enlight Melbourne 2023- Highlights & - Key Takeaways
Hayes & Brockman
The International Society of Schema Therapy (ISST) Enlight conference was in Melbourne, we discuss some takeaways and reflections from the conf
Episode 32: Schema Therapy For Children and Adolescents
In this episode with speak with Dr Christof Loose (Germany) in his approach in applying Schema Therapy to children and adolescents. Dr Loose’s website - https://www.schematherapy-for-children.de/
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Episode 31: Pull up a Chair with Dr Scott Kellogg; Chair Work in Schema Therapy
Chair work in Shema Thearpy with Dr Scott Kellogg
Hayes & Brockman
" Scott Kellogg, PhD and Amanda Garcia Torres, LMHC, will be giving four Three-Day Chairwork Psychotherapy Certification Trainings in Australia from March 20th
Episode 30: Increasing the Drama in Schema Therapy with Elsa's Magic Shop - with Elsa Van Der Broek Schema Drama Therapist (Netherlands)
Increasing the Drama in Schema Therapy! with Elsa Van Der Broek (Netherlands)
Hayes & Brockman
Episode 29: Executive Coaching and Schema Therapy
We join executive coach Dr Iain McCormick in discussing how Schema Therapy can be applied in work with executive coaching and within high-performance work contexts. Iain holds clinical psychology training and customises schema therapy concepts to work within high-performance work environments. link to schema coaching articles and videos https://www.eccltd.co.nz/blog
Episode 28: What if Series - Case Formulation and Assessment
This episode continues with with a focus on therapist “what if” moments. Here we focus on issues related to case conceptualisation and assessment in Schema Therapy.
Episode 28: Case Formulation and
Episode 27: Maybe I Will, Maybe I Won't- Motivation in Schema Therapy with Dr Kirsty Gillings
in this episode we speak with Dr Kiirsty Gillings (Clinical Psychologist and accredited Advanced Schema Therapist) who’s based in Scotland and go on a deep dive into the area of motivation in change.
Episode 26: Schema Therapy For Couples and Schema Hedgehogs with Dr Eckhard Roediger
Schema Therapy For Couples with Dr Eckhard Roediger
Hayes/ Brockman
In this episode, we speak with Dr Eckhard Roediger, Director of the Frankfurt Institute of Schema Therapy. We discuss couples schema therapy, schema hedgehogs
Episode 25: Leaning into Empathic Confrontation with a Big 'E' and other Gnarly Challenges with Wendy Behary
Empathic Confrontation expert Wendy Behary discusses the art form of empathic confrontation within schema therapy. We discuss its application in coping modes, critic modes, motivation and “other gnarly challenges!” Visit https://www.schematherapytrainingonline.com or more information regarding Wendy Behary’s new course
Episode 24: What if Series- Imagery
Episide 24. "What if" Series: Imagery
Hayes & Brockman
This episode focuses on imagery in Schema
Episode 23: The Schema Therapy Accreditation and Supervision Survival Guide
This episode we look at accreditation in Schema Therapy. We look at International Society of Schema Therapy (ISST) requirements and discuss ways those learning the model can best use the time in supervision and training.
Episode 22: Remco Van Der Wijngaart - Remco's Magic Class (and Jeff Young's Camerman)
Today we speak with Advanced Accredited Schema Therapist and trainer Remco Van Der Wijngaart. We discuss tips, tricks and various approaches to clinical problems in Schema Therapy. We also hear about a previous life as a camera man!
Episode 21: Limited Reparenting: The "What If" Series
This episode focuses on the therapy relationship in Schema Therapy and the use of Limited Reparenting. We chat about “what if” issues, therapist own schema issues in limited reparenting and more!
Episode 20: Professor Arnoud Arntz, The Scientist Behind the Practice
We had the pleasure of interviewing Professor Arnoud Arntz, the pioneering researcher into schema therapy developer of the model. Professor Arntz joins Chris and Rob discuss new developments within the Schema therapy model, new proposed schemas and we have a discussion around unhappy monkeys! Notes from the Episode:Towards a Reformulated Theory Underlying Schema Therapy: Position Paper of an Inter
Episode 19: Introducing the New Young Schema Questionnaire - Revised with Lead Author Ozgur Yalcin
A New Schema Measure- THE Young Schema Questionnaire= R, with Oz Yalcin
Oz joins Chris and Rob to discuss new research into the YSQ- R, a short
from short measure. We look at how this new measure can be preferable
alternative in schema assessment and look at new findings and insights from
recent research in the area.
The measure can be accessed here -
https://www.schematherapytrainingonline.c
Episode 18: Harnessing the Incredible Hulk in Imagery, with Imagery Rescripting/ EMDR researcher Katrina Boterhoven de Haan:
A new episode of What's the Schemata is now available. In this episode Rob
interviews Katrina about her experiences running the IREM study for
trauma.Includes discussion about Imagery Rescripting vs EMDR and for whom,
as well as discussion of overcoming Imagery 'Roadblocks'. Rob and Katrina
also discuss when 'incredible hulk' fantastical imagery might be useful...
or not.
Episode 17: Onboard the Schema Bobsled: Treatment Phases in Schema Therapy With Rosi Reubsaet
Onboard the Schema Bobsled: Treatment Phases in Schema Therapy With Rosi Reubsaet
Chris and Rob chat with Dutch Schema Therapist & Clinical Psychologist Rosi Reuubsaet regarding treatment objectives and phases within Schema
Episode 16: Can we Be Friends? Integrating DBT to Schema Therapy Chris Hepworth
Chris Hepworth Accredited Advanced Schema Therapist talks about how DBT can be integrated into Schema Therapy work.
Episode 15: Schema Crime Channel : Forensic Schema Therapy Staring into the Abyss
Chris and Rob discuss forensic schema therapy with Accredited Advanced Schema Therapist and Clinical Psychologist Dt Lars Masden
Episode 15: Schema Therapy Crime Channel: Forensic Schema Therapy
Episode 14: Q&A with Chris & Rob
Chris and Rob discus questions about schema therapy provided by our wonderful listeners!
Episode 14: What's the Schemata Q&A with Rob and Chris
Hayes & Brockman
Episode 13: Jeff Young Interview Part 2:
This program is sponsored by Schema Therapy Training Online- The Online Training Hub for schema therapy www.schematherapytrainingonline.comThis is the second part of our interview with Dr Jeff Young. Here he discusses the role of the punitive critic, the effect of culture on schemas/ mode development, advice to the schema therapist in training.
Episode 12: Jeff Young Interview Part 1- Wayne's World, Schemas and More
This program is sponsored by Schema Therapy Training Online- The Online Training Hub for schema therapy www.schematherapytrainingonline.com We interview the originator of schema therapy Dr Jeffery Young, discussing developmental origins of schema therapy, schemas and modes and the future of schema therapy.
Episode 11: How to Build a Healthy Flexible 'Self' with ACT Expert Prof. Joseph Ciarrochi Interviewed by Rob Brockman
Joseph Ciarrochi: How to Build a Healthy Flexible 'Self' with ACT
Epison 10: Sex Gone Off the Rails: Intimacy, Addiction and Schema Therapy
Sex Gone Off the Rails: Intimacy, Addiction and Schema Therapy With Liz Lacy
Hayes/ Brockman
Liz Lacy a US based Schema Therapist specialising in addictive sexual behaviours. We discuss sexually addictive behaviours, intimacy a
Episode 9: Schema Therapy for Eating Disorders With Dr Susan Simpson
Schema Therapy for Eating Disorders with Susan Simpson
Episode 8: Empathic Ninja Schema Warriors- Narcissism & Empathic Confrontation with Wendy Behary
Former International Society of Schema Therapy president and expert in narcissism and empathic confrontation Wendy Behary talks about Schema therapy and karate moves.
Episode 7: Get an Image; Imagery Rescripting in Schema Therapy
Chris and Rob discuss upcoming imagery rescripting research into childhood trauma and its Implications on Schema Therapy practice de Haan, K. L. B., Lee, C. W., Fassbinder, E., Voncken, M. J., Meewisse, M., Van Es, S. M., ... & Arntz, A. (2017). Imagery rescripting and eye movement desensitisation and reprocessing for treatment of adults with childhood trauma-related post-traumatic stress d
Episode 6: Schema Therapy in the On Line World
Rob Speaks with Xi Liu (Advanced Schema Therapist, Sydney Australia) about how we can work with schema therapy in an on line environment
Schema Therapy in The On line World
Brockman/
Episode 5- Schema Therapy In the Time of COVID 19
This episode looks at Schema Therapy in the atmosphere of COVID 19, how we can help our clients and ourselves as therapists in accessing a Healthy Adult Mode in the face of great challenges.
Schema Therap
Episode 4: Emotional Deprvation Schema - An In Depth Look
In this episode we one of the most frequently observed schemas- emotional deprivation. We look at how it comes up in treatment, other schemas it often presents with, as well as ways to formulate and assess and ideas in helping clients with this schema
Episode 3- Critic/ Punitive Modes in Schema Therapy- Friend or Foe?
Critic Modes in Schema Therapy
Episode 2- Am I Avoiding something? Avoidance in Schema Therapy
This episode looks at the issue of avoidance in schema therapy, patients avoiding material, therapists avoiding things! Avoidance is everywhere!
Episode 1- Anger, Schema Therapy and Tennis Champions
Our 1st episode looks at anger and how therapists can interpret and conceptualize anger in patients. We look at how anger can trigger therapists and how to work with with anger. We also look at one angry tennis champion!











