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Debunking Economics - the podcast

Debunking Economics - the podcast

Steve Keen & Phil Dobbie 515 Episodes Jul 29, 2026

Economist Steve Keen talks to Phil Dobbie about the failings of neoclassical economics and how it reflects on society. The podcast challenges mainstream economic assumptions and explores alternative perspectives. It aims to make complex economic ideas accessible to a general audience. Each episode offers a critical look at economic orthodoxy and its real-world consequences.

Episodes

AI, inequality and basic income
AI, inequality and basic income Jul 29, 2026 44:20 Phil happened upon a book to Australian economist Joshua Gans (and Andrew Leigh) called Innovation & Inequality – how to create a future that is more Star Trek than Terminator. He discusses some of the concepts with Steve, including whether companies responsible for the creative destruction of other industries should be made to pay. As Phil puts it, if I burnt down a shop, I would possibly go
The Burnham Factor
The Burnham Factor Jul 21, 2026 45:17 Andy Burnham is now the British Prime Minister but, Phil asks, aside from convening cabinet meetings in the north, will he do anything different to his predecessor. No, he will follow the same neoclassical economics approach as all Prime Ministers, with an obsession for balancing the books, rather than developing creative outcomes to distribute wealth and grow the economy. In short, it’s a slightl
The unrelenting progress of winner takes all economics
The unrelenting progress of winner takes all economics Jul 17, 2026 41:52 This week Phil and Steve talk about the staggering accumulation of capital, which has ratcheted up since the pandemic. In the US the top 0.1 percent of companies hold 88 percent of all corporate assets. In 2017, the top 10 S&P companies accounted for 20% of the market cap of all 500 companies, now they account for 37%. And its not because these companies are good. It’s because the nature of pr
Too slow for zero?
Too slow for zero? Jul 7, 2026 42:51 This week Phil and Steve confront the mathematical and environmental reality of a "zero growth" future, sparked by a debate over the deflationary traps of finite currency systems like Bitcoin. Steve thoroughly dismantles standard neoclassical theories of "decoupling"—the fantasy that global economies can indefinitely expand their wealth while reducing energy consumption—exposing how mainstream eco
Challenges for the reserve currency
Challenges for the reserve currency Jul 2, 2026 39:09 How much longer can the United States rely on the US dollar to dominate the global financial system, and what happens when the cracks finally start to show? In this week's Debunking Economics podcast, Phil Dobbie and Professor Steve Keen travel back to the 1944 Bretton Woods conference to revisit John Maynard Keynes's ultimate lost argument. Steve details how Keynes's visionary proposal for a glob
The world’s anti-migration shift to the right
The world’s anti-migration shift to the right Jun 23, 2026 48:11 Phil and Steve confront the global surge in anti-immigration rhetoric and right-wing political momentum, tracing its roots to the structural failures of neoliberalism rather than the actions of migrants themselves. Steve dissects how decades of fiscal paranoia, deregulation, and slashed public spending on health, welfare, and education systematically eroded working-class security, turning migrants
GDP is hopelesss as a relative measure
GDP is hopelesss as a relative measure Jun 17, 2026 45:30 Steve and Phil critique our systemic over-reliance on Gross Domestic Product (GDP) as the definitive baseline for comparing global economies and measuring societal well-being. The discussion underscores a fundamental flaw in neoclassical modeling: while GDP measures raw industrial output, it completely fails to reflect actual public welfare due to stark differences in income distribution, unpriced
Is Labour right to cut tax incentives for housing speculators?
Is Labour right to cut tax incentives for housing speculators? Jun 10, 2026 44:46 This week Phil and Steve dig into the storm of controversy over Australia's new budget rules targeting property speculators. The Labor government has scaled back negative gearing and abolished the 50% capital gains tax discount for established dwellings—major tax shelters that have historically rewarded people for gambling on rising asset prices rather than working productive jobs. Steve demonstra
Hedging an Uncertain Future
Hedging an Uncertain Future May 20, 2026 38:14 This week Phil challenges Steve on how the futures market handles terminal risk, pointing out that oil prices slope downward over time simply because traders blindly assume the Strait of Hormuz will reopen. Steve agrees and tears into the financial sector, explaining that modern pricing models dangerously mistake unquantifiable "uncertainty" for manageable "risk" by using flawed Gaussian distribut
Conditioned to borrow, not save
Conditioned to borrow, not save May 13, 2026 45:43 This week Phil and Steve dismantle the structural shift of the global economy toward a permanent state of debt dependence. Following a critique of Steve’s recent debate on the Piers Morgan show and a revisit to last week’s discussion on th link between energy and productivity, they look at how policy since the 1980s aggressively incentivizes borrowing over saving. Steve argues that the banking sec
Improving Productivity
Improving Productivity May 6, 2026 32:35 In this episode of Debunking Economics, Steve Keen dismantles the mainstream economic obsession with "Total Factor Productivity" (TFP), labeling it a mythical construct that ignores the laws of physics. He argues that economists historically "fudged" data to credit an abstract idea of technology for growth, while in reality, productivity gains are almost entirely a function of increasing the energ
Beating inflation?
Beating inflation? Apr 30, 2026 38:31 Phil and Steve analyze the 2026 return of double-digit inflation, characterizing it as a structural cost-push crisis rather than the result of excess consumer demand. Keen argues that with Brent crude hitting $100 a barrel due to the Strait of Hormuz blockade, energy costs have become a fundamental driver of prices that central bank interest rate hikes are fundamentally powerless to resolve. He de

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