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But You Look So Good Podcast 102 episodes Latest Jun 1, 2026

Two psychologists, Sally Shaw and Seona Ilalio, host a podcast that sheds light on the realities of living with chronic health conditions. Both hosts live with chronic conditions themselves and lead Livology, a private practice specializing in psychological support for those navigating chronic health challenges. The podcast features candid conversations and professional insights aimed at fostering community and connection among people with chronic health conditions.

Episodes

An Interview with Lucy: Ehlers Danlos Syndrome Jun 11, 2026 00:43:25 Meet Lucy, a research psychologist from the UK living with Ehlers-Danlos syndrome (EDS), chronic migraine, and persistent pain that went undiagnosed for more than two decades.From painful periods and joint pain to migraines, digestive issues, and fatigue, Lucy spent years collecting diagnoses without anyone connecting the dots. Receiving an EDS diagnosis finally brought answers—but also a profound
"Less Than" Jun 8, 2026 00:35:48 One of the most painful experiences many people living with chronic illness, disability, mental health challenges, neurodivergence, grief, or major life setbacks experience is the feeling of being somehow "less than."Less successful.Less productive.Less capable.Less independent.Less worthy.In this episode, we unpack where this feeling comes from, why it is so common, and how much of it i
An interview with Becky: MS, Single & Social Media Jun 4, 2026 00:40:30  Today on But You Look So Good, we're sitting down with Becky, a woman who has spent her entire adult life single, and along the way, received a life-changing diagnosis of multiple sclerosis. While Becky has a close and supportive network of family and friends, living with a chronic health condition has meant facing many of life's biggest challenges independently. From managing symptoms an
Putting the Chronic in Chronic Illness: How to cope with knowing it will never get better Jun 1, 2026 00:34:38 In our 100th episode of But You Look So Good, we reflect on the journey of creating this podcast as two psychologists living with MS — what we’ve learned, what has surprised us, and the incredible community that has formed around honest conversations about chronic illness.We then dive into one of the hardest realities many people face: the difference between acute illness and chronic illness. Soci
An Interview with Robyn: Turning Crohn’s Disease Into Comedy May 28, 2026 00:41:41 Today's guest is Robyn, an award-winning comedian and writer who lives with Crohn's disease, a condition that affects millions of people worldwide, yet remains so often misunderstood, misdiagnosed, and for many, carries a huge amount of shame. Because let's be honest, we're talking about symptoms that people often feel embarrassed to speak about, let alone joke about on stage. But
Dynamic disability: when capacity constantly changes May 25, 2026 00:38:16 Some days you can function. Some days you can’t. Some days you make plans, show up, laugh, work, parent, and feel almost like yourself. Other days, getting out of bed feels impossible.For many people living with chronic illness or disability, symptoms aren’t static. Capacity can shift hour to hour, day to day, week to week. Pain, fatigue, mobility, cognition, vision, strength, dizziness, function.
An Interview with Fiona: Transplant Recipient, Triathlons, Tenacity May 21, 2026 00:44:17  Today you are hearing from Fiona, a woman from Ireland whose life has been shaped by an extraordinary journey through chronic illness, resilience, and reinvention. Fiona was diagnosed with a kidney disease while pregnant in 2009, a diagnosis that came completely out of nowhere. For the next seven years, she managed a progressive debilitating condition while raising three young children, navigatin
“Stop Using Your Condition as an Excuse” (and Other Helpful Judgements) May 18, 2026 00:36:08 What happens when the hardest part of living with a chronic illness isn’t just the symptoms — but the judgement?In this episode of But You Look So Good, Sally and Seona unpack the comments so many people with chronic health conditions hear: “It’s all in your head,” “Maybe if you exercised more,” “You’re a hypochondriac,” and “Stop using your condition as an excuse.”They explore the psychological i
An Interview with Chris: From Nurse to Crime Writer After a 19-Year Diagnosis Journey May 14, 2026 00:44:35 Our guest today is Chris, a former nurse of thirty-one years and now an award-winning crime writer who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis after what he describes as a torturous nineteen-year journey to answers. In this conversation, Chris takes us back to those first strange symptoms, the years of pushing through, continuing to work in healthcare, and the frustration of navigating a medical sys
Anxiety and Chronic Illness May 11, 2026 00:37:10 Anxiety can feel very different when you live with a chronic illness. When your body has become unpredictable, your nervous system can begin to stay on high alert — scanning for symptoms, preparing for worst-case scenarios, and struggling to fully relax.In this episode, we explore the relationship between chronic illness and anxiety through a psychological lens. We discuss hypervigilance, uncertai
Interview with Amy: Being a Doctor, MS, Long Covid and Job Loss May 7, 2026 00:52:59  What does it take to keep going when your body, your career, and your identity all shift at once? In today's episode, we sit down with Amy, a doctor from the UK who has lived that very question. Her story begins in 2011 weeks before her wedding when she woke up, unable to feel half her body as a doctor. She suspected multiple sclerosis. Getting anyone to take her seriously was another story. We f
Fatigue and how to explain it May 4, 2026 00:31:02 Fatigue is one of the most common—and misunderstood—parts of living with a chronic illness. In this episode, we unpack what fatigue really is (hint: it’s not just being tired), why it happens, and why it can feel so unpredictable and overwhelming. Drawing on both our clinical work and lived experience, we explore the physical, cognitive, and emotional layers of fatigue—and the science behind it.We

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