Thinking outside the box with Gavin Rubinstein
Gavin Rubinstein, a leading Sydney real estate agent, hosts conversations with individuals he believes have trailblazed by thinking outside the box in their fields or even within his own office. The podcast explores unconventional ideas and approaches, featuring guests who have made a mark in their industries. Rubinstein is a top-ranked salesperson for Ray White, having been named number one in New South Wales for seven consecutive years and globally in 2018 and 2019.
Episodes
#57 James Short
Gavin chats with performance coach James Short about the self-awareness, discipline and consistent habits behind lasting success.James shares practical insights on motivation, accountability, goal setting, leadership and the connection between personal wellbeing and professional performance.Episode Breakdown00:00 – 05:00James’ background, early life, sporting influences and starting hi
#56 Chris Helder
In this episode, Gavin sits down with renowned sales trainer, keynote speaker and author Chris Helder, whose work on mindset, communication and “useful belief” has helped shape the performance of some of the top performers in real estate and beyond. Chris unpacks the difference between blind positivity and useful thinking, explaining why elite salespeople can see opportunity where othe
#55 Jay Luchs
In this episode, Gavin sits down with legendary retail broker Jay Luchs, the powerhouse behind some of Los Angeles' most iconic commercial property transactions, including the recent $400 million Hermès deal on Rodeo Drive.Though a strict NDA limits the details of that sale, Jay opens up about his rise from a struggling assistant, his unconventional pivot from entertainment into real e
#54 Tony O'Doherty
In this episode, Gavin sits down with Tony O'Doherty, one of Brisbane’s top-performing agents, to unpack the mindset and work ethic behind his rapid rise in real estate. From leaving school at 16 to building a multimillion-dollar business, Tony shares what it really takes to succeed, the role of energy and discipline, and why most agents stay busy but never become truly productive. Episode B
#53 Ben Bandari
In this episode, Gavin sits down in Dubai with Ben Bandari, one of the city’s most recognisable real estate figures and the driving force behind Million Dollar Listing Dubai. With over two decades in the market, Ben has witnessed and helped shape Dubai’s transformation from a desert outpost into one of the most dynamic real estate arenas in the world From delivering pizzas in Van
#52 Josh Morrissey
Gavin sits down with Canberra-based Josh Morrissey, founder of Hive Property, to unpack what it really takes to build an elite real estate business from the ground up, and sustain performance at scale. From starting Hive with no money in the bank, a newborn baby, and four staff working out of a concrete garage, to becoming the only independent agency to hold second market share across the ACT, Jos
#51 Matt Lancashire
Gavin sits down with Brisbane’s Matt Lancashire to unpack what it takes to build an elite sales career, how to scale a business, and sustain performance over the long term. From starting broke and nine months without a sale to leading a multi-office operation and breaking Brisbane auction records, Matt unpacks the mindset, systems, and bold decisions that shaped his journey, and the pe
#50 Josh Phegan
In this episode, Gavin welcomes real estate coach Josh Phegan for an in-depth conversation on achieving excellence and longevity in the industry. From his upbringing in regional Australia and formative years learning from his family’s real estate legacy, to building a global coaching practice, Josh shares lessons on adaptability, service, and the discipline required for lasting success. Lear
#49 Jordan Smith from Dubai
In this episode, Gavin sits down with Jordan Smith, Dubai’s most dynamic real estate broker. From humble beginnings in Preston to breaking records in Dubai’s luxury market, Jordan details the grit, mindset, and relentless value-add that fueled his rise. Episode Breakdown 00:00 – 05:00Jordan’s roots in Preston, UK, early career in car and funeral sales, and discovering
#48 Adrian Bo
In this episode, Gavin sits down with Adrian Bo, one of the most respected names in Australian real estate. With a career spanning over three decades, Adrian shares how he went from stockbroking dreams to commercial leasing, then became a sales titan and now a sought-after coach and auctioneer. Adrian opens up about the lessons he learned from John McGrath, the power of discipline, and what it tak
#47 Vivien Yap
Gavin sits down with Vivien Yap, One of Australia’s top female real estate agents, to unpack how she built a powerhouse career after two decades as a pharmacist. Vivian shares the mindset, routines, and lessons that fuel her success. She opens up about her transition into real estate, the support systems that keep her grounded, and what drives her now as a leader and mentor. This episo
#46 Marcus Chiminello
In this episode, Gavin sits down with Marcus Chiminello, one of Australia's most respected names in real estate, known for dominating Melbourne’s luxury market and redefining what prestige selling looks like. Marcus opens up about his journey from apprentice carpenter to record-breaking agent, his decision to specialise in high-end properties, and the personal discipline it takes to stay at
#45 Oliver Lavers and Zac Rabin
Gavin sits down with Oliver Lavers and Zac Rabin from TRG, two of the most successful real estate agents in the Ray White network. Known for their high performance, consistency, and drive, these top operators open up about what it takes to succeed in a challenging property market. From personal routines and relentless discipline to vendor management and leadership, Zac and Oliver share hard-earned
#44 Sunny Gill
Gavin sits down with Sunny Gill, a retail mogul who has helped shape the fashion landscape in Southeast Asia. As the second generation in his family’s retail empire, Sunny shares invaluable insights on business, resilience, and the lessons learned from his father, who famously brought Zara to Southeast Asia. From selling shoes in his father’s stores as a teenager to securing the rights
#43 Wingman
Nick and Jonathan join Gavin to share how they built Wingman, a company that’s transforming real estate operations with offshore admin solutions. Starting in property management, Jonathan grew his business from 60 to 3,000 properties, leveraging virtual assistants in the Philippines. Together, Nick and Jonathan now lead a team of 900 staff supporting 700 real estate agencies, streamlining op
#42 Maz Speaks
Maz joins Gavin to share insights from her career in entertainment and her transition into conference speaking. Having worked on The X Factor, Celebrity Apprentice, Big Brother UK & Australia, and many more, Maz now specializes in personal brand differentiation and behavior change. She discusses the importance of storytelling, reading an audience, and standing out in competitive industrie
#41 Jordan Navybox
Gavin sits down with Jordan Navybox: Managing Director QLD, Cohen Handler. Jordan has been recognised as the highest-grossing buyer’s agent in QLD four times. He shares his journey into real estate and discusses the importance of product knowledge, experience, and customer service in representing high-end clients. Jordan explains how he has grown his business over the past 10 years, starting with
#40 Anthony Bell
In this episode, Gavin sits down with Anthony Bell, the CEO of Bell Partners, one of Australia's top accounting firms. Hear how Anthony's determination and entrepreneurial spirit led him to break away from his father's accounting practice and start his own successful firm at just 27 years old. Learn about his unique approach to building a thriving business, including his focus on advisory servic
#39 Daniel O'Brien
In this episode, Gavin sits down with Daniel O'Brien, the owner of X-Commercial. Hear how Daniel's persistence, strategic mindset, and innovative approach to social media have fueled X-Commercial's success. Learn from his experiences navigating the challenges of commercial property management and his plans for a nationwide franchise expansion. Daniel also delves into his thoughts on balancing work
#38 Peter Freedman
Today, we welcome Peter Freedman, founder of RØDE, a leading brand specialising in microphones, headphones, audio interfaces, and software. Their state-of-the-art facilities house over $500 million in machinery and an international team of 800+. Their products are exported to 119 countries worldwide. From his humble beginnings as a young Swedish immigrant to Australia, Peter shares his story of ov
#37 Marnie Seinor
In this episode, Gavin sits down with Marnie, a top 20 female real estate agent in Australia with over 25 years of experience and 2,000+ properties sold. Marnie provides a fascinating glimpse into the early days of her career, when she learned from industry greats and described the invaluable experience of absorbing their knowledge and techniques. Get inspired by Marnie's drive, work ethic, and w
#36 Matt Kemeny
In this episode Gavin sits down with Matt Kemeny, a top-performing associate in Gavin's office. Matt shares his remarkable journey from working at the front desk of a gym to becoming a highly successful real estate agent, despite having no prior experience. Listeners will learn about Matt's resilience, discipline, and the valuable lessons he's learned from his mentor, Gavin, and the experienced ag
#35 Nick Tobias
Gavin sits down with renowned Australian architect Nick Tobias. Nick shares the story of how he started his practice at just 22 years old and built it into one of the country's leading architecture firms known for bespoke luxury homes. He discusses the process of designing high-end homes from concept to construction, getting projects approved, working with clients and more. Nick also provides valu
#34 Michael Kollosche
In this episode, Gavin interviews real estate powerhouse Michael Kollosche about his incredible career journey. Michael shares how he got his start in real estate over 25 years ago and discusses his early success in becoming the #1 agent at Ray White, the reason for his 5-year break from the industry and how a certain client eventually convinced him to return. 0:14-0:28 - Starting a real estate ca
#33 Astrid Joarder
In this episode, Astrid Joarder shares her inspiring career journey from events sales to becoming a high-performing agent in Sydney. She discusses navigating the challenges of a male-dominated industry and her strategies for excellent client service. Plus you will get insight into her daily routine, goals, and how she manages a successful career with relationships and self-care. 0:00-5:00 - Astrid
#32 Jason Boon
Gavin sits down with Jason Boon to discuss his journey from falling into real estate to becoming one of Australia's top agents. Jason shares stories from his early career working as an assistant, the lessons he learned along the way, and the unique approach he took to build his business and brand. 0:00-5:00 - Jason's start in real estate and early career5:00-10:00 - Lessons from his time as John M
#31 Zac Rabin
Gavin sits down with Zac Rabin to discuss his path from a struggling start in real estate to becoming one the top writing agents and known as the off-market sales specialist at TRG for luxury property. Zach shares the sacrifices and routines he implemented that took his business to the next level and his advice for up-and-coming agents. 0:00-5:00 - Introduction, Zac’s background and early real est
#30 Adrian Oddi
In this episode of Thinking Outside the Box, Gavin Rubinstein interviews his longtime friend Adrian Oddi about his unconventional path to becoming one of Australia's top real estate agents. Adrian fell into real estate by chance after his dreams of becoming a police officer didn't work out, and he started as a part-time receptionist just trying to get his foot in the door. Hear how through hard wo
#29 Oliver Lavers Returns
Oliver returns as the first person to appear on the podcast twice, and for good reason, recently taking home the Ray White NSW/ACT Top City Salesperson title. He shares his insights on what got him there, and discusses the importance of returning every call, doing what you say you'll do, and putting your name out there as much as possible through marketing. He also talks about how focusing too muc
#28 Bill Malouf
This episode features an interview with veteran real estate agent Bill Malouf. Malouf recounts how he got his start in real estate at age 35 after leaving the pub industry. He strategically began his career in Maroubra before quickly moving to Sydney's prestigious eastern suburbs. Maloof credits his rapid rise to always being accessible to clients and providing excellent service, believing this wo
#27 Damien Cooley
In this episode, Gavin Rubinstein interviews Damien Cooley, One of Australia's top auctioneers. They discuss the unique qualities that set Damien apart from other auctioneers and their professional partnership. Damien shares his journey to becoming an auctioneer and the challenges he has faced. Listen to Damien's inspiring story and dedication to his craft. [00:01:23] Challenges faced in real esta
#26 Charlie Touma
In this episode of "Thinking Outside the Box," Gavin Rubinstein sits with real estate agent Charlie Touma to discuss his success in the Surry Hills market. They delve into Charlie's journey in real estate, his connection to the Ray White Group, and his strategies to write millions of dollars in gross commission. They also explore becoming a "digital mayor" and building a strong profile. Tune in to
#24 Carli Skurnik
Carli Skurnik is the founder and director of One Buyers Agency. With 18 years of experience, she's a successful buyers agent in the eastern suburbs of sydney. In this episode you'll hear about: Her journey into real estate Being a female in a male-dominated industry. The story of One Buyers Agency The key differences between a buyer's agent and a seller's agent. What she does differently compare
#23 Michael Coombs
Michael Coombs is the owner of Atlas by LJ Hooker, has consistently achieved outstanding results across the Lower North Shore for over 20 years and is ranked among Australia’s top-performing sales agents. In this episode you'll hear about the changing moment in his career which led him to double his business and reach 3.5 billion in total career sales.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy infor
#22 Dane Atherton
Dane Atherton is titled Queensland’s best auctioneer, runs an outfit with 170 staff members, and owns Harcourts in Queensland. Dane wanted to connect his love of property to the call of the waves. Joining with his life and business partner, Kym Atherton, he founded Harcourts Coastal at Broadbeach in 2011, with an aspirational brand of positive leadership. Gavin sits down with Dane on the Gold Coa
#21 Oliver Williams
Oliver Williams is a top associate agent at TRG and exemplifies what happens when persistence and hard work pay off. With a healthy dose of competitiveness and high emotional intelligence, Oliver’s dedication to the transaction is instinctive. Hear the story of how this 24-year old went from living in Bathurst to becoming a highly efficient and accomplished part of Gavin’s core team. See omnys
#19 Simon Cohen
Simon Cohen is a buyer’s agent and Co-Founder of Cohen Handler, the largest Property Buyer’s Agency in Australia. Starting his career within Ray White, Double Bay, Simon was consistently ranked within the top five sales agents within the office, ultimately achieving “Top 3%” of agents Australia wide. As the highest-grossing buyer’s agent in the country, Simon prides himself in making the process o
#18 Mat Steinwede
Ranking consistently as the number one agent in the McGrath Network, combined with leading one of the most successful sales teams in Australasia, Mat Steinwede is a sales specialist, international keynote speaker and author. Mat shares his incredible story from hit rock bottom to becoming a world-class real estate agent.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
#17 Dr Chantel Thornton
Dr Chantel Thornton is a specialist breast and oncoplastic surgeon. As a top performer in her field, she talks to Gavin about what it takes to build a top team, deliver an amazing customer experience and the sacrifice required along the way. October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. You can find more info and donate here. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
#16 - Dan White
Dan White is the Managing Director of Ray White Real Estate. Dan became part of the executive team at Ray White in 2008 and now helps to see over 12,000 agents and shares about his journey, his learnings and the new relationship with TRG. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
#15 - Josh Altman & Josh Flagg
Josh Flagg & Josh Altman are two of America’s most successful and sought-after luxury real estate agents, having completed more than five billion dollars in residential real estate sales in the past decade. Altman & Flagg are the number one and two agents in sales in the world’s most competitive market and stars of Million Dollar Listing LA. Fresh off the plane, the dynamic duo sit down w
#14 - Clarke & Humel
Michael is the trailblazing co-founder and director of Clarke & Humel. Michael is currently ranked no #2 agent in Australia for the seventh year running. Partnering with his wife Cherie, the pair have created a breakthrough agency with a long list of returning clients, scoring over $5 billion in sales. Tune in to discover the secrets and mindset of a true real estate weapon.See omnystudio.com/
#13 - Dave Highland
A pioneer of the industry with a vision of growth, David Highland has over 25 years of experience within the Real Estate space. Dave started Highland Property Group in 2007 with 6 real estate professionals, and through their hard work and dedication have grown the team to more than 150 people. In this podcast, Gavin uncovers Highland's strategic vision, growth mindset and resilience.See omnystudio
#12 - WHITEFOX
Marty Fox and Aidan Hathaway are the creators of White Fox real estate, a revolutionary end-to-end real estate negotiation and advisory firm. The business is only 5 years old, but has taken the Melbourne market by storm, having already transacted over 1 billion dollars in property since 2017. Starting out as strangers meeting during their lunch breaks they are now one of the most sought after voic
#11 - Mark McLeod
"Agents' Businesses aren't defined by the task they are doing, they are completely defined by the task they are choosing not to do". Real Estate is a numbers game. Knowing how to crunch them will ensure you come out on top. Mark McLeod is the Ray White Group’s Chief Executive of Market Share and Growth. In this podcast, he shares with Gavin the relationships you must develop with your prospe
#10 - Tom Panos
There is too much to say about Tom Panos. He is a Real Estate Influencer, the founder of Real Estate Gym, Head Coach for the REB top 100, host of the Million Dollar Agent Podcast and a Sydney Auctioneer. From opening his first real estate company at the young age of 22, to striking it big with News Corp, and creating a real estate empire, this podcast explores the mentality and movements of a true
#9 - XMedia
XMedia is a great example of what happens when two mates with a love for creative content stick it out for the long run. From starting out shooting videos on an iPhone for a $50 cheque, to working with brands like Lamborghini, Rolls Royce and The Rubinstein Group, XMedia directors Thomas Kuzma and Ben Treasure talk about how XMedia went from a side gig to a creative powerhouse and the biggest less
#8 - Remi Lindsay
A fundamental pillar of TRG Remi wears multiple different hats and is seen as one of the most important figures of the business. Running the company like her own her unique perspective on real estate allows her to not just meet expectations but exceed them and today we discuss her journey. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
#7 - Cae Thomas
In this episode, Gavin sits down with Cae Thomas. Whilst Cae is currently the number 1 agent at TRG based on financial year exchanges (since June 30th 2021) the start to his career was not a smooth one. Cae began his career feeling lost & moving between 4-5 offices until joining Gavin's team in 2017 - today we discuss his journey.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
#6 - Jerome Srot
In this episode, Gavin sits down with his first ever employee who over ten years ago would sit with him for hours going call for call out of the white pages prospecting for business. As the team grew his role evolved. Today Jerome is the director of Property Management at TRG. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
#5 - Jarryd Rubinstein
In this episode, Gavin sits down with his brother Jarryd, Managing Director of Ray White TRG. Hear about his experience, from being an elite Soldier to breaking world records to now being in the world of Real Estate. He’s across the financial side, the operational side, the legal side and the people side. But when it comes to his good side, that’s doing whatever it takes to safeguard t
#4 - "Making the top 3% with the youngest elite performers In the Ray White Group"
In this episode, Gavin sits down with the youngest 'Elite' members in the Ray White group. To be recognised as 'Elite' means you are in the top 3% of the group and have settled over $600,000 of commision in the last financial year. Rebecca Cuderman is the youngest Elite performer in Queensland at only 22 & Joshua Nassif is the youngest Elite performer in NSW at only 23.See omnystudio.com/liste
#3 - Michael Clarke AO
In this episode, Gavin chats with the one and only Michael Clarke AO, former cricket Australia captain regarded as one of the best batsmen of his generation. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
#2 - Oliver Lavers
In this episode, Gavin sits down with the first agent he hired: Oliver Lavers. They discuss how Oliver became the top performer at Ray Whites The Rubinstein Group, and the challenges he faced on his way, how he overcame them and what’s next. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
#1 - Team Cosgrove
In this episode Gavin sits down with Team Cosgrove after they have just finished a record month for their careers: Patrick Cosgrove, Don Riley & Liam O'Donnell.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
